February 3, 2012 in Religion
Did you know that atheists don’t know the ULTIMATE TROOOTH?
Twitter user @istologio2 posted this link which subsequently broke my thinking circuits. After auto-repair kicked in and formed yet more mental scar tissue I could do without, I remembered “oh yes, this is some of the same old crap believers go on about all the time.” I figure I’ll dispense with the absurdities put forward in my own, oh-so-special way in this bit. (Sorry about the lateness of this; I began it in January, then let it rot for a while)
Original contents are in red.
“If there is no God, there is no Truth.”
You know it’s important when it’s Truth with a capital T. I’m sure we’ll see some actual logic to back this up later (DO NOT COUNT ON THIS).
“If there is no ultimate truth (or falsehood!) then any searching for it is at best a waste of time.”
Oh, so now it’s ULTIMATE TRUTH (or just plain old ‘truth’). I guess Truth got a Capcom sequel, or it’s an alternative comic line now. Or even worse, this is THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR’S TRUTH (who is wielding the Warrior’s force field and all that).
“Then you have only data. You have nothing to give rise to science, except as data-gathering. But behind the data, there’s no plan, no design, nothing to know. It’s all just chance.”
I think this has only non-sequitors.
“If there is no God, then there is no such thing as anything being good or bad.”
If there’s no Zeus, there’s no lightning. If there’s no Horus, there’s no sky. OH SHI WAIT THOSE THINGS STILL EXIST
“You may still have emotions, but they are entirely subjective; you cannot really experience anything as intrinsically good or bad, or as valuable or significant or meaningful.”
Nope, still not having that problem.
“You moreover have no scale against which to recognize morality or immorality.”
You want to argue for “absolute” morality? Dawkins, take the wheel!
“There’s really nothing to think, nothing to know, nothing to feel, nothing to experience, so what’s left? An infinite (maybe) void.”
This is what I suspect most theists exist in when I try dealing with them. A space devoid of intellectual honesty, integrity, and basic human decency.
The whole foundation of this article is again, as seen with Terry Ivy, that Yahweh is some Platonic ideal of truth, and we need to pointlessly insert him into as many things as possible in order to…well, kiss Yahweh’s ass some more. Do you spend minutes on your knees deciding what to wear to work? (no.) When there’s multiple brands of toothpaste staring you in the face at the grocery or drugstore, do you immediately bow down and beseech the creator of the universe for help? (not unless you plan on looking really dumb) How about ordering off the menu at a restaurant? (again, no) At least one of those outfits is going to be more appropriate for your work. At least one of those toothpastes is better than the others. At least one of the entrees will taste better than the rest to you. That’s just a small sample of small things that have truth values you probably don’t pray about. You can scale up and find plenty of things that have truth values that don’t need crying and wailing to Yahweh about as well.
The article is really, as most are, a distraction. It’s really sad to see how (stupid|deluded|brainwashed|suckered) some people get about their religion and try to do their damnedest to silence the voices of doubt within and without. In the olden days, they did this by murdering the infidels. Nowadays, they try all manner of abusive bullshit from posting death threats to firing non-believers (at least, in this corner of the world). As the quote goes, “Religion comes begging to us, when it can no longer burn us.” As non-believers as all stripes stand up and stop being silent, the religious are getting scared.
As our knowledge and wisdom expand, god keeps getting smaller. The last refuge of the believers are to place their god outside of even space and time, so as to never be questioned, and never be approached. The goal of such is to try to ensconce Yahweh in a fantasy zone, realizing that being bound by them would put limits on his power. However, they forget a couple things. First, we have no senses that work beyond space and time (and don’t give me “faith is a perfect antenna for everything” – why doesn’t faith pick up cosmic background radiation? Cures for major diseases? Next weeks sport scores?), and second, the moment Yahweh interacted with anyone (becoming Jesus especially), he was immediately time- and space-bound. Oops.